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hidrospectre 7

ummm supongo roshi tendra unos 2500 - 3000 si pelean juntos pueden fastidiar a nappa jaja

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hidrospectre 04/08/2020 02:14:37   
Luisfer 2

de hecho si usan buen sus ataques de ki hasta podrían ganarle. Como el ban koku bikuri sho y el Kamehameha a su máxima potencia

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Luisfer 04/08/2020 05:56:31   
TotalmentoTulio 20

En esta lucha, la inteligencia y la estrategia serán la clave de la victoria, y si la Z quiere ganar, tendrán que luchar con la cabeza. Y la gente olvida el poder de las técnicas terrícolas, son extremadamente poderosas y versátiles. La combinación y el trabajo en equipo pueden superar la fuerza bruta. Estoy de acuerdo contigo, y Yamcha y Roshi son más poderosas que en la versión canónica de la historia.

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TotalmentoTulio 04/09/2020 00:22:34   
cesar-kun 5

ayyy papá! 4k! y nisiquiera es su maxima así que yamcha su poder maximo debe rondar los 5500 aprox! como dice cierto niño argentino estooo se va a descontrolaaaaarrrr!

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cesar-kun 04/08/2020 02:21:38   
ChamanCaido 22

La pelea contra Nappa será interesante

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ChamanCaido 04/08/2020 03:20:01   
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4000 units? Yamacha hasn't messed around
That's more than three times what he was at this point in the manga.

Let's see how well Roshi has done.

Nappa's got to be between 6000-8000. Probably less than 8000. Since Goku trashed him.
I think he's 6000-6500.

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This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 04/08/2020 09:28:33   
TotalmentoTulio 20

In this phase of Manga, Nappa had 4,000 Fighting Power. Whereas Nappa had 4,000, and in that scenario Nappa is stronger, his power is 5,500 or 6,000 at most. Master Roshi should have 3,050 fighting power, Yamcha 4,000, with the kamehameha multiplier the attack power should go up, for Yamcha to close to 6,000 and Master Roshi's should go to 4,000 and Roshi in MAX Power should go to 4,575 fighting power, if we use the user's fighting power multiplication calculation using the kamehameha, which, if I'm not mistaken, was 1.5. A strategy is to be confused with Zanzoken, which is quite useful against opponents who do not feel the opponent's Ki.

The most logical thing to do is Roshi and Yamcha and using Kiai-ho to attract is Bankoku Bikkuri Sho to paralyze Nappa, and then a full power attack with a Yamcha kamehameha (MAX Power maybe he trained with Roshi must have learned that form) from Yamcha, considering that Nappa had 4,000, and in this scenario Nappa is stronger, his power is 5,500 or 6,000, a maximum attack from Yamcha which is 6,000 (if he also acquired MAX Power goes to 6,570) and more than enough to kill Nappa. If the Terrans work as a team, and especially if they use their combined techniques.

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TotalmentoTulio 04/09/2020 00:17:57   
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for me nappa is closer to goku in the manga

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Demerzel 04/09/2020 10:29:29   
TotalmentoTulio 20

If Nappa was aware of Goku, he would not have been humiliated by the Earthman sayajin as easily as was shown in Anime and Manga.

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TotalmentoTulio 04/09/2020 20:33:15   
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Well to be fair, Nappa was infirior to Goku, but he got humiliated while he was freaking out. Once Vegeta told him to calm down, he did much better. But Vegeta lost patience with Nappa and told him to get out of the way. Nappa then decided to attack Gohan and Krillin.

Goku, realizing he wouldn't catch up to Nappa in time, had to resort to the kaioken to overtake Nappa. Of course the power difference between them was so high at that point, that Goku broke Nappa's spine, paralyzing him. Which led to his death by Vegeta, who considered him useless.

So yes, Nappa is weaker than Goku, but when calm he can put up a fight. And he's not so weak that Goku can just teleport past him, he had to use the kaioken.

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This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 04/09/2020 20:43:40   
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Goku didn't need to use Kaioken in the manga (this technique was created in Anime), Goku didn't need to use it in the fight against Nappa even in the manga, and Goku only won the teleport after Freeza's saga. And Nappa was less than 2,000, or had less than 2,000 less fighting power compared to Goku.

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TotalmentoTulio 04/10/2020 06:35:37   
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http://fanfox.net/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c032/1.html#ipg11

http://fanfox.net/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c032/1.html#ipg12

Goku using the kaioken against Nappa.
A few pages before that Goku states "this could take forever" so I'd agree with Demerzel that Nappa is closer to Goku on the powerscale.

http://fanfox.net/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c032/1.html#ipg8

That said, Vegeta also stated Goku had energy to spare.

I meant Goku wasn't fast enough to catch up to Nappa in time, so he resorted to the Kaioken.

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This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 04/10/2020 14:08:23   
TotalmentoTulio 20

But in Manga, Nappa's official Fighting Power and 4.00 thousand fighting power, forcing the maximum in concentrated attack was 5.000 thousand. And I am assuming that in this version it comes out stronger, with 5,500 to 6,000 fighting power, since in this universe they are more powerful due to the rigidity of the Cooler army.

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TotalmentoTulio 04/09/2020 20:37:04   
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Nappa`s real power in the manga was around 8.000. As some already explained he totally put up a fight against Goku when he focused and stopped playing around. Goku was still stronger, but ralized he was not going to one-shot him as he originally intended to.

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Chewys 04/10/2020 23:15:56   
ImperialWrath 2

I think Nappa was actually closer to the 7,500 mark max when he was fighting Goku. Since Goku was stated as being "over 8,000", which would mean he could be anywhere from 8k to 8.5k.

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ImperialWrath 07/10/2024 22:59:54   
saydo 3

¡4.000! Genial, van a dar buena pelea, cada vez pinta mejor.

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saydo 04/08/2020 11:01:40   
MATTIA IL DIVINO 3

So, Raditz is no more at 1350, as previously stated, but it’s now confirmed to be 1,5 K.
Nappa, according to Salagir’s recent chart, is 8 k, perfectly explaining how he was almost on par with Goku.

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MATTIA IL DIVINO 04/08/2020 11:35:30   
Chewys 31
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Hmmm... forgot about that... i made it in a hurry and didn't check back. But nos i think 1350 would be more fitting... either way there is not much diffrence... but it'll edit it.

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Chewys 04/08/2020 13:19:17   
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I assumed you changed your mind
It's edited now

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This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 04/08/2020 15:38:16   
Demerzel 9
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same in french

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Demerzel 04/09/2020 10:28:29   
Chewys 31
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Woah... that's effectivness. Thanks guys!!!

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Chewys 04/10/2020 04:15:56   
Jason Phoenix 11

Yamcha, rocking a solid 4K. Gotta admit, that is impressive

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Jason Phoenix 04/08/2020 11:44:22   
Atan 3

I don't know why, but this Nappa strangely remembers me the "DBZ Abridged" one. In my head I read "Let's go play with them, Vegeta" with his voice...

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Atan 04/08/2020 17:56:25   
hidrospectre 7

4000 era el poder de nappa jugando vs los guerreros z, en está pelea no puede jugar, sad xD

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hidrospectre 04/08/2020 18:58:18   
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There are honestly many ways this fight could go down.

Standard earthlings vs Nappa and Vegeta
Standard earthlings vs oozaru Nappa and Oozaru Vegeta
Standard earthlings + red ribbon vs Nappa annd Vegeta
Standard earthlings + mr Satan vs Nappa and Vegeta


Mr Satan vs Oozaru Nappa and Oozaru Vegeta.

So many possibilites xD

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This....IS MY BOOMSTICK 04/08/2020 21:49:54   
Timebreaker V 14

Concertesa ahora no tengo dudas, ¡Yamcha y Roshi realmente pueden tal vez derrotar a nappa sin ayuda!

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Timebreaker V 04/08/2020 23:27:38   
TotalmentoTulio 20

Bueno, el Maestro Roshi debería tener 3,050 poderes de combate, Yamcha 4,000, con el multiplicador kamehameha el poder de ataque debería aumentar, para que Yamcha se acerque a 6,000 y el Maestro Roshi debería llegar a 4,000 y Roshi en MAX Power debería ir a 4.575 poder de combate, si usamos el cálculo de multiplicación del poder de combate del usuario aplicando el kamehameha que, si no me equivoco, fue 1.5. En otras palabras, Yamcha y Roshi pueden derrotar a Nappa si trabajan en equipo, y especialmente si usan sus técnicas combinadas, creo que la mejor estrategia es confundirlo con Zanzoken, que es muy útil contra oponentes que no sienten el Ki del oponente.

Lo más lógico es Roshi y Yamcha, y usar a Kiai-ho para atraer a Bankoku Bikkuri Sho para paralizar a Nappa, y luego un ataque de poder total con un Yamcha kamehameha (MAX Power quizás entrenó con Roshi debe haber aprendido esa forma), considerando que Nappa tenía 4,000, y en este escenario Nappa es más fuerte, su poder es 5,500 o 6,000, un ataque máximo de Yamcha que es 6,000 (si también adquirió MAX Power va a 6.570) y más que suficiente para matar a Nappa.

Después de este ataque combinado, Yamcha y Roshi pueden comer un Senzu y recuperar su fuerza, y concentrarse en Vegeta. Puedes debilitar al maldito Vegeta si ambos saben cómo usar su inteligencia, e incluso gana, recordando que Vegeta no tiene la capacidad de sentir el Ki de los enemigos. El problema y la forma del mono gigante de Vegeta, en Oozaru, será un dolor de cabeza. Pero nuevamente, el trabajo en equipo y la inteligencia vencieron la fuerza bruta, puedes usar Bankoku Bikkuri Sho para paralizar el sayajin en forma de Oajaru y destruir su luna artificial, o usar Kiai-ho para atraer la luna artificial y destruirla. En esta lucha, la inteligencia y la estrategia serán necesarias si la Z quiere ganar.

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TotalmentoTulio 04/09/2020 00:02:29   
darkbolt99 6

incluso con 4k yamcha puede tanquearse a nappa un buen rato ya que todabia no esta en su maximo salvo que el pelon use su maximo poder
en cuanto a roshi quiza tendre 3k o mas asi que no me sorprende que tien krilin y harp y popo estando menos dias entrenando con kaia tengan el mismo nivel o superior al resto quizas 5k de unidades minimo y maximo 6 o 7 mil sumando que la mayoria tenga el kaioken x2 y la genkidama

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darkbolt99 04/09/2020 04:09:53   
Demerzel 9
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Il me fait penser à Dexter Vegeta!

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Demerzel 04/09/2020 12:02:31   
alexelmejor 22

para darse una idea de los poderes de pelea juegen a este juego : (dragon ball z super saiya densetsu) es viejo pero esta entretenido y pueden cambiar la historia haciendo que tenshinjan chaos y yamcha sobrevivan ... lamentablemente picoro muere si o si jeje

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alexelmejor 04/10/2020 16:18:48   
Forofgold 28

Asi que Raditz tenia 1350, ni 1200 ni 1500

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Forofgold 06/17/2021 02:55:08   
ImperialWrath 2

I've gotta start by saying I LOVE this comic. It actually incorporates a lot of elements that I had planned for a fan-fiction story I intended to write, though it also includes some ideas I didn't think of.

However, I also gotta say that I strongly disagree w/ Yamcha's stated power level in this chapter. Considering that 1) Yamcha had a stated power level of 365 at the time he fought Raditz, 2) Yamcha was stated by Roshi as being close in power to Raditz after he drank the water of the gods (meaning that his power should've been at least 3x that 365), and 3) both Yamcha & Roshi were seemingly shown training in the time chamber at one point while training under Kami, Yamcha and Roshi both should be at least double what this page says their power is.

Even if Kami didn't have them use the time chamber during their training, I'd say that neither of them should be below 6,000. Having them at top-out at 4,000 is seriously low-balling. That's just my two cents.

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ImperialWrath 01/07/2023 23:45:38   

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