Amilova.com: DBM U3 & U9: Una Tierra sin Goku: チャプター 23, ページ 6 コメント https://www.amilova.com/jp/feed/comments.rss?c=25805.6 ♥アミロバー♥の最新の漫画を読んでください! Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:07:16 +0000 Kor Daemonsbane Saiyajinkami のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153649#RClast Kor Daemonsbane Saiyajinkami Yeah the wiki is made by fans, but if something on it does have proper sources then it's reliable. That said since the canon itself created confusion about whether Kaioken and Kaioken x2 were any different from each other, it works in this situation for you to make them have a clear difference to clear up said confusion for this story. Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:26:38 +0000 RegiFist のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153624#RClast RegiFist This story has become so unique, I'm extremely interested in how you continue it! Mon, 28 Dec 2020 23:06:17 +0000 alain57 のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153565#RClast alain57 i like the little smoke part on kiwi's detector what gives a good clue of where the original picture was from Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:04:18 +0000 Chewys のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153515#RClast Chewys Yep. Wiki is made by fans. Toriyama originally treated it as two diffrent multipliers and that has been cause of debate among the fanbase to this day. So i'm gonna go and stand in mid ground: Base Kaioken is a 1,5-1,7 multiplier and Kaioken x2 is atound x2 multiplier. Kaioken x3 is around x3 and so on. And to avoid further controversy something might happen to Kiwi's scouter next page Sun, 27 Dec 2020 15:54:32 +0000 Kor Daemonsbane Saiyajinkami のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153514#RClast Kor Daemonsbane Saiyajinkami According to the Dragon Ball wiki, base Kaio-ken is x2. It also says there is some inconsistency with Kaio-ken and Kaio-ken x2 seeming to be the same despite both Goku and King Kai believing there to be a difference. And yes I know the wiki can be unreliable sometimes, but there are sources to the manga and Daizenshuu 7 for what I've mentioned it said, so in this case I believe it's safe to say the information is reliable especially with the first part being sourced in the manga itself. Maybe Chewys has the base Kaio-ken a little weaker than x2 to clear up the inconsistencies for this story though as Ultimate Perfection pointed out it is around roughly a 1.75x multiplier according to the math. Sun, 27 Dec 2020 15:28:04 +0000 Ultimate-Perfection のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153481#RClast Ultimate-Perfection They essentially caught Kiwi off-guard when they powered up using Kaioken. He never expected them to increase their power further after they had already plateaued with their base power. That moment of shock for Kiwi gave Tien the opportunity to strike. It's sort of similar to how Gohan was able to kick Dodoria in the face despite being vastly weaker in the manga/anime. Even if Tien didn't do a lot of damage to Kiwi, it will set up an opening for Krillin and Haarp to dish out their attacks on Kiwi as well. Sun, 27 Dec 2020 05:50:19 +0000 Ultimate-Perfection のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153480#RClast Ultimate-Perfection Kiwi read Krillin's, Tien's, and Haarp's max base power levels at 7000. Dividing 12,000 by 7000 gives us 1.71, so roughly a 1.75x multiplier. That is pretty good since the three of them are still heeding King Kai's warnings about exceeding a 2x multiplier with Kaioken. They will be conserving more of their stamina as well as doing less damage to their bodies. They have the advantage in numbers, so they should be keeping Kiwi on his toes for a while. Once Vegeta enters the picture and goes Great Ape, they will almost have no choice but to crank up the higher multipliers of Kaioken! Sun, 27 Dec 2020 05:34:52 +0000 JoKar1007 のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153479#RClast JoKar1007 Wasn't the base kaioken a 1.5 multiplier? How strong did they become in the afterlife? Or are they already using a x2 multiplier? Sun, 27 Dec 2020 05:16:54 +0000 Jouger13 のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153456#RClast Jouger13 jajajajaja Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:44:48 +0000 Chewys のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153446#RClast Chewys True. They may manage to land a few blows being a team, but they should power up a bit more to make any sustancial damage. Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:55:26 +0000 This....IS MY BOOMSTICK のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153440#RClast This....IS MY BOOMSTICK And yet Vegeta was able to force Kaioken x3 Goku back in the beam struggle... Despite Vegeta being 18.000 and Goku 24.000 Sat, 26 Dec 2020 15:59:11 +0000 kcheeb のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153438#RClast kcheeb 12000 shouldn't be able to damage 18000, just a few thousands a huge difference, like vegeta 24000 kill 21000 dodoria easily with just 3000 difference. Dodoria couldn't even do any damage to vegeta Sat, 26 Dec 2020 15:42:02 +0000 DivinusRex のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1153425#RClast DivinusRex Kui with 18.0000 against four guys around 10.000/12.000 (And they are still at Kaio ken 1) Kui is gonna get raped Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:06:39 +0000 Chewys のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1152838#RClast Chewys Hahahahaha Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:51:33 +0000 This....IS MY BOOMSTICK のコメント: https://www.amilova.com/jp/comics-manga/25805/dbm-u3--u9%3A-una-tierra-sin-goku/チャプター-23/ページ-6.html?c=1152819#RClast This....IS MY BOOMSTICK Sound abruptly stops Kiwi: Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation. Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:15:46 +0000